
Yamaha Maxster 125
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Yamaha Maxster 125
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Brilliant
Great bike reliable sounds nice quick acceleration mine a bit of a pig to start in winter sometimes take a few goes but it will start so not a bad bike and it's a yammy so it built to last.
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This Is My First Scooter/bike And I'm Very Pleased
This is my first scooter/bike and I'm very pleased with it. It's quite fast - acceleration could be a bit faster though (I'm a big guy though). It's very attractive and easy to control. Overall I love my bike and it's so good I'm not part-exchanging it when I get my next bike. Nice and reliable :-)
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I Love My Bike But The Spares Are Just To Expensiv
I love my bike but the spares are just to expensive.
I've been looking for rear shocks and what a rip off. The best price I have found is around £145 exculding vat.
What a rip off. If you think of it I only paid £600 for the bike and just the shocks are a quater of the price. MAD.
Also someone mentioned the choke. Yup, mines gone as well but to get it fixed is close to £100, again mad.
The thing is, if you look around you can find a complete card with a choke for around £50. So where do they come up with these prices. I'm seriosly thinking of selling it and buying a different bike.
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I ' Ve Recently Bought A Maxter 125; I Found That
I ' ve recently bought a maxter 125; I found that it has good acceleration and a good top speed of 65mph which I am more than happy with as it is my first bike. My bike was recently owned by my older brother who had no problems with it at all so it leads me to believe that the bike is very reliable.
Overall the bike is very reliable.
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I Bought This Yamaha Maxster 125 From A Dealer Two
I bought this Yamaha Maxster 125 from a dealer two months ago and use it to get to work/20miles away. Great on fuel and free parking when you find the moto spaces. I got this as I was paying over £100 per month for parking! Now I spend around £8 per week. My car stays in the drive and I'm much happier not to have to pay someone all my money for parking. This is a great idea for anyone with the same problem!! The bike had belonged to an elderly man who had bought it in 2003 to use instead of his car. He became ill and then could not use it and I bought it for £1700 with just 18 miles on it, really a new bike!! I'm still having a great time!!
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I Bought This Scooter For Only £585. Its Muc
I bought this scooter for only £585. Its much larger than ordinary 50cc 2 strokes and higher aswell. I have done 65 on this scooter with no problems. Costs me £6 to fill up the tank which usually lasts me a week. I do about 25 miles per day 5 days a week and so far doing 65mph each day. It copes fine with this. The only problem I have had so far was with the keys. The seat release works off the ignition system and this has jammed. A new part cost me £50 but now works fine. Not as quick as 2 strokes on acceleration but has a much higher top end speed. I have completed a 130 mile trip on it without any problems what so ever.
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I Purchased My Maxster In Jan.04 For Only £7
I purchased my Maxster in Jan.04 for only £750 even though it was only 14 months old. It was an unwanted gift that a man had bought for his wife and she refused to ride it - so he wanted shut of it asap.
Power was poor when I first rode it but when I gave the machine a good examination, I found the spark plug was only half way in and was incorrectly gapped. Was it like this from new I ask myself? If it was, then it doesn't say much for the dealers pre delivery inspection.A new plug, correctly gapped and installed made a huge difference in performance. This is only a 125 after all and it weighs a lot for such a small engine, so any fault at all will have a very adverse effect on overall performance.
I used it for local transport only due to car parking difficulties where I live until I lost my job( and company car) when it became my sole transport.Even so, it still has only done 2700 miles despite being now (July 2005) 21 months old. Most journeys are only of a few miles at the most so I change the oil every 500 miles. I always work on the basis that oil is cheap and easy to change whereas engines are not! I have done a few longer journeys but nothing more than 100 miles.
It is capable of motorway travel as long as you keep to 60mph, as it feels stained over that speed although I have seen 75mph on the clock on a downhill stretch.Fuel consumption never seems to drop below 90mpg no matter what speed I do.
Obviously it is not made or sold as a motorway basher and on non-motorway journeys it is, quite frankly, all that anyone needs for travel in Britain today.It will pull away from most cars at the traffic lights getaway and cruises smoothly and effortlessly at any speed likely to be safely and legally reached on any single carriageway road. The overall finish is excellent, especially on the plastic bodywork. If you think this review is written by someone who works for Yamaha -- read on!!!
The seat is very uncomfortable. I know it is a commuter and not a Gold-Wing, but you shouldn't get bum ache after only 5 miles. After 20 miles you need to get off and stretch your legs to relieve the ache.
Components are not as high quality as the glossy finish would have you believe.They are also expensive considering the machine is a commuter scooter. I need to replace the fork seals on my machine - total cost of all parts is around £65 which is ridiculous for two seals, two dust seals, two washers and two O-rings. I couldn't afford to take the machine to a Yamaha dealer - they charge about £50 per hour labour.
To make things worse, the pinch bolts on the yoke have seized neccessitating removal of the entire fork assembly to get at the bolts and quite possibly cut the heads off and drill out the seized in bolt stems prior to tapping new threads for the replacement bolts.Also, there is corrosion and pitting on the fork tubes which means they will have to be replaced or rechromed to pass its first MOT in October.These failures are simply unacceptable on a machine that has only done 2700 miles and has been garaged all its life when not in use.
To me this set of problems is indicative of poor quality materials and bad assembly practices at the factory and/or poor PDI. A small amount of grease or the use of stainless fasteners would have prevented the pinch bolt seizures. Gaiters would have prevented the corrosion on the fork tubes. The cost at the factory would have been negligible but instead I am faced with a lot of work to rectify these avoidable problems.
Fortunately, I know what to do and have the tools, facilities and experience to do the work.
But what about someone who can't undertake such work? The cost would probably be in the region of £500 if a dealer did it all. Not the sort of money that is easy to come by for the sort of people who can only afford a scooter on which to commute.
I also need to replace the air filter which will cost £12. This is a ridiculous price for such a tiny item. The filter on my wife's car is about 6 times the size and costs the same!!
The worst aspect of the Maxster is a characteristic shared by many, if not all, of the new generation of plastic scoots - aerodynamics.
The design of the Maxster is basically faulty. It may look swoopy and curvy and it is admittedly a good looking machine.But the design is a triumph of form over function. That swoopy, fighter-jet styled front directs a blast of air right into your face and body. It is uncomfortable and very very noisy. Ear plugs are a must on any lengthy trip - ie over 10 miles. The wind blast also causes the visor on my helmet to vibrate extremely uncomfortably resulting in an aftershock chattering of my teeth that can last for 24 hrs after a journey of as little as 25 miles. I fitted a genuine Yamaha screen and this has helped at lower speeds but has made things worse at over 50mph.
All in all it is a shame that a simple design fault can spoil an otherwise good machine. I have a 1983 Vespa V100 which is inferior - as you would expect - in all aspects of performance to the Maxster. But the little Vespa wins hands down in terms of protection from the wind and rain, quietness due to lack of windblast and aerodynamic superiority. At any speed, the Vespa is smoother, quieter, less affected by turbulence and protects the rider better from the wind and rain. As the Vespa design goes back to 1946, you would have thought that someone as big as Yamaha could have improved on it by now!
Mind you, it's not just the Maxster that's aerodynamically unsound. I used to have a Honda CN250 Helix which was just as bad and so was a Yamaha Majesty 250 I once borrowed.The Gilera Runner has such a badly designed front end that you would probably be no worse protection-wise on a naked motorbike. The Vespa ET4 is horribly uncomfortable and I bet many more of the new breed of plastic automatics are just as bad.I think it is just the fact that many scooters never get outside the city and never exceed 30-40mph that stops their shortcomings being revealed.
That's OK for city dwellers but I believe that if a machine will cruise at 60mph like my Maxster does, then it should offer adequate protection from the elements at that speed. If Vespa got it right over 50 yrs ago, then everyone else should be able to do so now.
Or is appearance more important than useability?
Lastly, anyone buying one of these should be aware it isn't really a Yamaha. These machines are built in France by a Yamaha subsidiary called MBK. This is the modern name for Motobecane who have been building mopeds since God was a lad. If you look at the manufacturers plate in the luggage compartment under the Maxster's seat you will see that it says "MBK Industrie" --NOT Yamaha. And you can buy one of these that is labelled MBK on the outside too. This is the MBK Thunder.
Further update from Barbarossa - jan 12th 2006
Re previous section. The imperial drill size should read 9/32" NOT 7/32".
Also - update on parts prices. Yamaha want an unbelievable £5-25 +VAT EACH for the four bolts holding the forks in the yolks. £5-25 +vat for a bolt is simply robbery. Fortunately, I had 4 suitable ones in my box of bits which has accumulated over 39yrs motorcycling.
Also, the price quoted by my local dealer for a choke was incorrect. They want an unbelievable £125 + VAT for the choke. This is for a an electrical component and approx !ft of wire. I bet it cost all of 10p in china!!. I have removed the choke unit, worked some WD40 into the body by activating the plunger by hand and so far it is OK. I will contact breakers to see what they have - it's bound to be the same choke on other bikes -they wouldn't make a choke just for this one make of scooter - it's too rare to make it financially viable.
The saga of the forks gets worse. New fork legs are £100 each plus VAT and a full set of seals will knock me back £75 + VAT or just £25 + VAT if I try to get away with just changing the oil seals only.( ie - two seals @ £12-50 each)
A complete new set of forks complete and ready to install is £370 including VAT so it's probably far less trouble to change all the front end given the difficulty of changing seals on forks such as these which have a spring loaded top "bolt" and therefore need some specialist compression tool to enable easy and safe dismantling of the forks.
The components are obviously sub standard in terms of quality - nothing should corrode so much after only 3800 miles especially when the scooter is garaged every night. The difficulty in disassembling spring loaded forks makes me think that Yamaha want to sell you new forks or pay their official dealer to do the job for you.
The cost of spares is outrageous. This is no cutting edge race replica but a ride-to-work scooter. How can they justify such prices? Not to mention poor quality!!
I will be disposing of this machine ASAP and never again will I buy a Yamaha. In fact I may just finish with Jap iron altogether. If I don't manage to get an old large frame Vespa for a reasonable price, I think it's time to see what the Chinese have to offer in the way of cheap transport. After all, most so called Jap machines are either totally or partially made in China these days.
UPDATE by Barbarossa on DEC 30th 2005.
As mentioned earlier, I have had to take the forks off to change the seals. The underside of the front mudguard has cut-outs which should allow removal of the yoke pinch-bolts with the forks in-situ, but one bolt was seized and the head stripped when I tried to undo it.
Removal of the forks is straightforward enough - take off the handlebar covers, and remove the small panel (4 screws ) at the top of the legshields. You can get at everything now.
There are 3 knurled ring nuts holding the forks in place with a tab washer underneath the top nut.
This will break when you remove it - it's known as a "one-time" washer.
The seized nut was a swine to remove. I turned the forks upside down to reveal the bottom of the seized-in bolt and left penetrating fluid in the hole for 48hrs. It wouldn't shift.
I heated the cast iron yoke with a blowtorch hoping differential expansion would do it. It didn't.
The head of the bolt was stripped so i ground it down to 7mm (8mm originally) but it still stripped even when using my impact driver on it.
I cut a slot in the head of the bolt and tried using a large screw driver bit in my impact driver - all to no avail.
Eventually I cut the bolt with a hacksaw in the joint of the yokes and freed the fork leg. There is a circlip at the top of the fork leg which prevents the leg dropping through the yokes even when the pinchbolts are removed. If you don't know it's there, you would never know why the legs will not drop through the yoke. These circlips lift out easy enough even with a normal screwdriver - you don't need a circlip plier.
I then drilled out the remains of the bolt - CAREFULLY. I started with a 2.5mm bit and then a 5mm. Eventually I ended up using an imperial size - 7/32" - to clear the rusted in threads. I was then able to reclaim the threads with a tap of the same thread as the original bolt.
But why is all this neccessary?
POOR DESIGN AND INCORRECT MATERIALS - thats why!!!!
The yokes are cast iron and the bolts were - unbelievably - chrome plated steel!!!
Surely this is not done at the factory? Yamaha/MBK must have at least one meturlagist on their staff who can tell them about chemical reaction between iron, chromium and (acidic) water.
Have the original bolts been replaced at some time?
The forks were in terrible condition - so much pitting you would think they came off a 10 year old dirt bike, not a 3 year old scooter. I've ground all the rust and pitting off and will cover them with gaiters for the MOT. This ruse worked years ago on an old suzuki TS185 - I hope it works this time as new fork legs alone are £100 each plus VAT.
What a rip-off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The electric choke has been acting up too. Twice the bike has failed to start due to this sticking.
This little piece of electric wiring costs £75 to replace. When my Yamaha didn't start I had to dig out my trusty old Vespa 100 ( I don't own a car ) which has a choke made of a piece of wire and a brass slide. No electric start on my Vespa - no battery either or even an ignition switch - but she is cheap and easy to fix.
The Yamaha has to go. They aren't built to last like old machines and parts are outrageously expensive. I'm keeping my trusty Vespa 100 and getting a 180SS or 150 Sportique as my main machine.
These old bikes are made for home fixing and are so simple to mend.
Modern stuff? - you can keep it!!!!!!!!!!
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I Have Owned This Yamaha Maxster 125 Scooter For N
I have owned this Yamaha Maxster 125 scooter for nearly 4 years, covering 18,000 miles, I felt the power was a little down, so being a full m/c licence holder bought a Malossi kit & uprated it to 170cc. It still returns 70 mpg, has a much better mid-range & appart from the electrical gremlins at 13,500m has been reliable, only major expense to date is fitting new head races, otherwise a practical sports Scooter.
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I Had This Yamaha Maxster 125 Scooter For 3.5 Year
I had this Yamaha Maxster 125 Scooter for 3.5 years, recently traded in for a Jetforce 125. It was a good looking scooter and served me well travelling about 30 miles a day to work and back.
There were teething problems when I first got the bike, like a leaking radiator and speedo set up for km instead of miles (dealers fault). After around 12K miles the electric went and a distributor was replaced.
The engine was still OK after 17K miles with very little problems. My only problem with this bike is the loose trim which I am not able to find/fix.
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Can any mods be made to the overall performance on the Yam XQ125??
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